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I was sitting pretty for several days with the top bid on emungere's fic writing offer in the livelongnmarry auction, but the rest of the usual suspects have suddenly shown up in force, and I'm teetering on the edge of what I can afford.

But it's all good for the cause! I think I'll leave it alone for a couple of days and see what happens.

> sniffles quietly <



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Jul. 6th, 2008 11:02 pm (UTC)
I know... I've got the only bid on something but hey, who knows what will happen in ANOTHER WEEK ARGH. ;)
Jul. 10th, 2008 01:48 am (UTC)
(the auction)

I have a feeling things will get very, very busy and tense on the 15th, as the deadline approaches ... .

Jul. 6th, 2008 11:03 pm (UTC)

This is why I sat up to 4:00 A.M. watching the clock so I could pounce on louiselux, who seriously underpriced herself! But at least her collab offer looks likely to make up for it...

You can always help me brainstorm what to beg for in the auction I won, of course!
Jul. 10th, 2008 01:52 am (UTC)

Ohhh, but I don't know if that would be fair! (Although I guess I could give you half what you put in, or make that much in another donation ... .) I think you want more of the vampirish one, don't you? I'd rather more of the prison AU or the Gojyo catboy thing - although I'm not sure how much more catboy there could be. A lot of my favorite louiseluxes are one-offs, like "Mutability."

Jul. 10th, 2008 03:17 am (UTC)
Ah, it's perfectly fair, you're just helping me brainstorm! XD

My very first gut reaction "I need MORE MORE MORE" that drove me to the auction in the first place was the stripper-Gojyo AU; and what-happens-next in the Edwardian-vampire-Hakkai piece is probably a close second. Beyond that, hmmm...maybe a prequel/side-story/whatever to the prison AU (like whatever happened way back when with Hansel, who I'm guessing may be Banri? Or how Oren and James finally meet Wolf-boy and the priest?). Or yeah, a little bit more with the random catboy AU might be interesting (only in Saiyuki I swear could there be writers who manage to take catboys and make them *hot* instead of just silly...). And I'm half-tempted to maybe beg for some reunion-sex to follow up the ending of Ne Me Quitte Pas, because that just hurt my heart so much to read that I'd love to see even more schmoop and tenderness to add onto the hopeful ending...

Decisions, decisions, decisions!
Jul. 10th, 2008 04:19 am (UTC)

Ohhh, yeah! The stripper story! I could go for that too! Poor, confused, frustrated Gojyo, in way over his head ... . Although there were some of the same elements in "Cupidity," like the big shopping scene.

Jul. 10th, 2008 04:22 am (UTC)
Well, I'm enough of a clothes-ho that I really, really love the shopping scenes; it's fun to vicariously play dress-up doll with the kappa, and makes for such a cute way to have him floundering around totally out of his element... XD
Jul. 11th, 2008 03:22 am (UTC)

Oddly enough, I like the shopping scenes too, but it must be on another level - Cherryh seems to like them too, and the two I can think of right off in her books only have the mildest element of adorning the sex object (in one case, it also involves supplies for a space ship, as well as clothes for someone ... but there's the same feeling of abundance and generosity).

Jul. 11th, 2008 06:46 am (UTC)
I think it's the combination of the emotional and sexual charge that does it for me -- if it was just shopping for clothes for clothes' sake, that would be a lot less interesting. But as you noted, these both have that abundance and generosity thing going on -- the various alter-Hakkais are so clearly out of AU-Gojyo's league socially and fiscally, so the kappa's got that poor-boy-out-of-his-league thing that resonates a lot with me. But it's not just a matter of being a charity case -- the AU-Hakkais are picking out things that make AU-Gojyo look really, really *good*, but not in the sort of cheap, blatantly sexual sort of way of so many of his old clothes. So it feels less like Lady Bountiful handing out crumbs to the peasants and expecting them to be properly grateful -- it's more like he's acknowledging an intrinsic worth that he sees, even if Gojyo doesn't see it in himself. An art collector finding a dusty painting in a Goodwill somewhere and swapping the tacky plastic frame for something hand-carved with gold leaf, say, because he recognizes what it's really worth despite where he found it...

The pizza-parlor scene in Cupidity works as sort of a mirror image of that for me, or the little moment in the stripper-AU where Hakkai talks about wanting Gojyo to teach him to play video games; this time it's Hakkai who's out of his element and no longer quite sure what the rules are. It's just as poignant in its own way, where the kappa has been comparatively deprived of more material luxuries, Hakkai has been lacking in the simple pleasures of more relaxed human contact...

And of course it's HAKKAI, which makes this all work for me where it might not with another character, because he just seems like the sort who might *enjoy* shopping and finding just the Right Thing. In the canon setting I'm more apt to think of him as a very practical bargain-hunter, since he's never really seemed to be in a place where he was rolling in money and could afford really frivolous luxuries -- but at the same time he is sufficiently fussy that it's not hard to imagine that in an AU where money's no object that he would insist on getting top-shelf stuff.

(I really should get off my butt and finish up that shopping story I got bunnied with from the "Kenren" prompt last month...le sigh.)
Jul. 12th, 2008 02:42 am (UTC)

Yes, there's definitely an element of "adorning the beloved" that's similar to the Mr.'s tendency to buy me jewelry! And also, once you've posited a wealthy Hakkai-type who has the money to buy fine things, he's just going to get a lot of aesthetic pleasure in dressing the pretty guy up in pretty clothes.

Yes, I think he probably is moderately tight with a dollar from day to day - he probably bargains ferociously both in the local markets when he's stocking up for himself and Gojyo, or on the road when he's spending Sanzo's money for supplies.

Jul. 12th, 2008 04:17 am (UTC)
*nods* I have that too, I really really enjoy making/finding things for friends and loved ones that are pretty and luxe and flattering on them. And I love helping friends shop, especially the ones (often but not always guys) who don't have a particularly good eye for cut or color or textile/garment-construction quality. It's all the vicarious pleasure of shopping bargain-hunting and picking out that one perfect needle in an overflowing haystack, without any of the self-image annoyances that sometimes come with shopping for oneself (or for that matter, without spending any of your own money!) With all of Hakkai's fussy caretaking side, it's very easy for me to see him wanting to make sure that the kappa has nice-looking, well-made clothes, just as he insists on cooking proper meals and keeping the place clean...and I can see that being amplified once he found out more about Gojyo's background, wanting to make up a little bit for all of the years of neglect and hardscrabble survival.

And canon-Hakkai definitely strikes me as one who's been in a sort of genteel poverty more often than not. First he's in the orphanage, then he's a college student (and with no family for support, that's bound to be an extreme case of the starving-student lifestyle), then he and Kanan are living on a small-town newbie teacher's salary (which in the anime at least was explicitly noted as not paying very well, just barely enough for them to live on)...and then it's on to Gojyo's adequate-but-doubtlessly-irregular gambling income. Unless you want to count that period of insanity after Kanan's abduction, I don't think he's ever been at quite the extreme homeless-and-penniless low Gojyo's lived through, but with that background it seems likely that he could seriously stretch a penny like nobody's business...
Jul. 16th, 2008 04:30 pm (UTC)

I have at least one friend that I want to drag out to the store (or force to look through catalogs) and make her look pretty ... although I also have an uneasy feeling that you might feel somewhat that way about moi ...   XD

And yes, I think Hakkai wants to pamper Gojyo to a certain extent ... that's why he puts up with all the messiness and laziness while he does most of the cleaning. Gojyo's earning the money, and Gojyo gave him a family again. I think the equation works in Hakkai's mind. And once you add the fanon OTP into the mix, the issue of making Gojyo look good becomes even more important.

(And for some reason that's reminding me of the scene in emungere's "Home from the Sea ..." when they go shopping and Hakkai is buying eels, to Gojyo's dismay: "It's not OK with Gojyo, but Hakkai's the one doing the cooking.")

Jul. 17th, 2008 03:34 am (UTC)
... although I also have an uneasy feeling that you might feel somewhat that way about moi ... XD

Heee! No, honestly, as long as folks are wearing clothes that actually fit properly and don't look like they were picked out in the dark by someone color-blind, I really don't feel any compulsion to foist style makeovers on people -- it would be boring if we all had the same personal style, and there are plenty of things that I think are cute in the abstract or on other people without ever wanting to wear myself. Most folks who are competent to dress themselves, unless they *want* me to help them get dolled up for something special, I'm perfectly happy to just try to help them find things *they* like, or at most give them a little encouragement to dare something when they're waffling over whether to try something a little outside their usual routine. I only get the compulsive UR DOIN IT WRONG, LET ME FIX THAT, *PLEASE* twitchiness over folks who really, really don't seem to have any clue -- wearing unflattering stuff that's five sizes too big or too small, frazzled hair that would be smooth and pretty if they would only bother to use conditioner, upset skin that would clear up if they washed their face with something a little gentler than deodorant soap, that sort of thing. Other than that, the only other sartorial thing that gets me twitchy is pretty much context-dependent -- for various reasons of culture and upbringing and all I have definite and apparently somewhat old-fashioned Ideas about what is and isn't nice enough to wear to a sit-down restaurant, a shopping trip, a funeral, etc., and it pains me a little bit to see folks who've dialed down the casual notch several levels below that...although outside of something like an S.O. context, it's certainly not like I'm ever going to go say anything to them about it! (This was, shall we say, a constant issue with the ex, who had lots of ripped/stained/faded/much-mended etc. old favorites at a state of decrepitude that I would never dare be seen outside of the house in, short of maybe going to a grunge or punk show -- but while I was happy to try to keep them repaired enough that he could use them for yardwork or painting or working on the car, he'd insist on wearing them to pretty much anything short of a job interview or a formal dinner! *facepalm*)

And yes, I think Hakkai wants to pamper Gojyo to a certain extent ... that's why he puts up with all the messiness and laziness while he does most of the cleaning. Gojyo's earning the money, and Gojyo gave him a family again. I think the equation works in Hakkai's mind.

There's also a little bit of that OCD fussiness, too -- Hakkai definitely has strong Ideas about the right way to do things, and Gojyo is much, more lackadaisical -- getting him trained to use the ashtrays and take out the trash once in a while clearly is a major undertaking! Having a little bit of that control-freak side myself, I think part of it comes down to the "if you want things done *right*, do it yourself" angle. Gojyo would probably be just about as stunned and happy about clean, mended laundry that's left crumpled in piles, or hot meals that came out of a box: insisting on the clothes being neatly folded or hung up, or cooking more elaborate, nutritious meals from scratch, that sort of thing is as much about Hakkai's own satisfaction in seeing things done properly for their own sake as it is about taking care of a friend or loved one.

It's funny, though, all this talk of wanting to take care of the kappa in all the ways he's been deprived of for so long has got me thinking about something -- when did Gojyo's backstory come out? I'm racking my brain and even thinking over the secondary canon of the anime, and I can't think of anything specific. Hakkai, all the stuff about Kanan and Hyakugan-Maoh and incest and mass murder, he fesses up to all of that early on -- but while it's clear by the Shunrei arc that Gojyo has at some point told him all about his own angsty family background, I don't think we ever actually *see* that conversation! Which has me really wondering when and how it all came out...
Jul. 19th, 2008 05:23 am (UTC)

It''s really hard to tell how much Saiyuki Minekura has left ... we had significant chunks of everyone's backgrounds starting 3 volumes in, with both "sets": Be There and the equivalent Sanzo/Goku stuff, and then the Burial arcs. It doesn't feel like this confrontation with Ukoku is going to end the series, so we may get another run of books with another chunk of background - maybe the scenes where Gojyo tells his story to Hakkai will be in there.

Jul. 7th, 2008 01:18 am (UTC)
People keep outbidding me, too. And what I'm not outbid on, I'm sure they're just lurking and waiting for the last minute!
Jul. 10th, 2008 01:55 am (UTC)

I'm worried about that last-minute biz myself! Also I wish I liked more of the artists. But since telophase has been sending me "in progress" shots of the thing I bought from her for the last auction, I'm worrying about that less! (I still wish someone who knew what s/he was doing would do me a couple of illustrations for my "Real Adventurer" fic.)

Edited at 2008-07-10 01:55 am (UTC)
Jul. 11th, 2008 06:22 am (UTC)
Oh, geeze, I would just die for a cute pic of the brothers having a rare happy moment together. Or maybe a movie poster for the thrilling Jiro series... ;)
Jul. 12th, 2008 02:47 am (UTC)

I had it all mapped out, what pictures I wanted for "Real Adventurer":

(a) Gojyo-chan and Jien watching the movie. They should be seated in old-style folding chairs, not movie theater seats. The story specifies that they are one row from the front, so this could be between/over the shoulders of the people front of them. Li'l Gojyo should be leaning forward, watching the screen, mezmerized (I'm not sure whether laughing or looking worried or amazed would be best), clutching his battered little paper sack of candy. Jien should be leaning back, looking sleepy and a little bored, watching the show with half an eye, one arm around Gojyo's shoulders or along the back of his chair. Gojyo should be wearing a down-market Japanese/Chinese schoolboy uniform (hybrid, like so much in Saiyuki ...) - shorts, shirt, maybe even a loosened school tie, knee socks (probably falling down his skinny legs), and battered slip-on canvas shoes. His face should be bruised along one side. Jien has a work shirt partly unbuttoned over a T-shirt, work pants, and workmanlike laced shoes/boots ....


(b) The brothers walking home after the movie, with Gojyo-chan trotting along the top of the rail fence at the side of the road, dressed as above and with a knapsack on his back, Jien striding along on the verge of the road beside him and looking up fondly as he talks to him (again, dressed as above). Gojyo isn't quite looking back at him because of needing to keep his balance on the fence.

Jul. 12th, 2008 04:56 am (UTC)
If only I could draw even half as well as I can visualize, I'd be working on those RIGHT NOW... *sighs*
Jul. 16th, 2008 04:32 pm (UTC)

I keep thinking I should just bite the bullet and try to draw ... I used to draw. I can't bear the idea of making bad drawings of Gojyo and Hakkai, but maybe if I started with the Kou-tachi, I could deal with it and see whether I could get anywhere that would satisfy me.

I could certainly do a better job than some of what I've seen online, proudly displayed, but I'm a lot picker than that.

Jul. 18th, 2008 11:55 pm (UTC)
If you enjoy the process of drawing and don't get hung up on how your stuff isn't turning out as good as the pro artists, it can be a really satisfying thing to do -- for me at least, non-verbal creative stuff like drawing or the various textile/jewelry works hits a very different part of the brain than writing, and it's a really good feeling. The hard part is getting in that groove where you can focus on the enjoyment of the process, rather than the self-critical sniping about the quality of the finished work!
Jul. 21st, 2008 02:34 am (UTC)

Well, see, that's the trouble. Like you, I have a specific idea in mind of what I want to be on the paper by the time I'm finished. But I used to draw well enough to impress other people and get a B and then an A (IIRC) in two semesters of college-level Life Drawing. So maybe I should try it again. (BTW, this is the cut-paper piece I did for telophase a combined birthday/Xmas gift.)

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