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Apple Tech Woez

Part of the reason I am posting this is so that I have all this info in one place.

SO! My iMac is about 6 years old: mid-2007 is what comes up when I put the serial number in on the Apple site.

I'm not sure how far I can upgrade the operating system on it past my current version, which is Mac OS X 10.5.8. This is nowhere near the current version. I can buy the 10.6 version, but I have to buy disks: no download apparently available, at least not from Apple. And then theoretically I can download additional upgrades and maybe bring it up to the current version. (Actually, I have already downloaded them, before I realized that they wouldn't work with my current OS X.)

I really wish I knew for certain whether the 10.6 is installable on my current iMac. I think so, because I'm right on the edge of the limit for the latest version. (Which is, again "mid-2007.")

The reason I even care is that the version of iTunes that I currently have will not play properly with the new iPad Mini. Which means that I can't simply sync up the two devices, as I do with my iPod. The iPod, which is named Yumichika, is a 4th-generation Nano, with the click wheel. So it's not exactly state-of-the-art either.

The current version of iTunes is 11.0.5. It requires OS X 10.6.8 (or later). (I currently have iTunes 10.6.3. It's confusing that the iTunes version numbers are so close to the OS X version numbers ... .)

One possible solution is to use the iCloud. There's an option for a subscription that wil allow you to obtain any song you currently have in iTunes, even if you ripped it from a CD or bought it from Amazon or something, as long as iTunes has it. But the iMac may not be up-to-date enough to use that, either. (I'm trying to figure that out from Apple's site. It's not easy.)

Oy vey iz mir. Dammit.

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Sep. 6th, 2013 07:25 am (UTC)
I'd be really really cautious about upgrading. What's the max RAM and do you already have it installed? I have a mid-2006 MacBook with 2GB running a couple OSes back and it's not running well because by that point the OS takes almost 2GB by itself. Other compatibilities aside, I'd look at the RAM requirements if the OS and compare with your computer.

If you have an Apple store near you, I'd ask them about the advisability of continuing to upgrade the OS.
Sep. 6th, 2013 11:28 am (UTC)

Hmmm ... :

Processor: 2 GHz Intel Core 2 duo
Memory: 2 GB 667 MHz DDR2 SDRAM

Taking a 20-inch iMac anywhere is a bit of a chore ... I have an 800 phone number for Snow Leopard (OS X 10.6), so I may try that first.

Sep. 6th, 2013 02:28 pm (UTC)
You wouldn't have to take it in, just the specs, but phoning works, too.

I'm running Snow Leopard on my old MacBook, and it barely runs. System requirements say 1GB RAM minimum, but it really needs 2 (preferably more) to run usably. Modern browsers alone can easily eat half a gig or more of memory while running, on top of the system and any other programs you're using at the time. :-/

However, a desktop may be able to take more RAM than my ancient laptop, so upgrading the RAM to max it out might be possible. RAM is pretty cheap these days. I'm trying to remember where to order...there was one company they recommended against because their RAM is often DOA (although lifetime guaranteed), but third party RAM is significantly cheaper (I think I got Crucial).
Sep. 7th, 2013 10:17 pm (UTC)

OK, everything has been squared away ... turned out the Mr. had the Snow Leopard disk with 4 remaining licenses on it.

Sep. 6th, 2013 11:38 am (UTC)

And .. :

143.24 GB available on disk.

Snow Leopard requirements:

  • DVD drive for installation (check)
  • Mac Intel processor
  • 5 GB free hard drive space
  • 1 GB RAM
Sep. 6th, 2013 02:48 pm (UTC)
From Toby:
She's got an Intel Core 2 Duo (the "2" is important - my old Mac Mini was a just a "Core Duo"), and the Apple installation page at http://www.apple.com/support/snowleopard/installation/ says any Intel Mac should be able to handle it. So I think she could upgrade. The amount of RAM is definitely a concern, but it won't stop the actual upgrade.

And now that I look at it, Core 2 Duo means she could put Lion (10.7) on there, but 1) she'd need to install Snow Leopard first, and 2) Lion requires 2GB of RAM, so she'd definitely start hitting memory pressure situations if she has a lot of things open at once. For reference, that page is http://www.apple.com/support/lion/installrecovery/

I have no experience with iTunes Match (the iCloud-based download subscription service she mentioned), so can't comment there.

If she chooses to upgrade (or not, really), please /please/ PLEASE make sure she has a recent backup first. Time Machine makes it damn easy to get a full system snapshot. And for added security I'd say burn the most important stuff to a DVD or two. If the upgrade craters the machine, she'll still be able to copy her stuff back down once Snow Leopard gets installed.
Sep. 7th, 2013 10:19 pm (UTC)

I recklessly did not follow Toby's advice ... which I did not see until I had already started messing with the system (I actually thought of doing a backup, but I have no external drive at the moment). But the bread fell butter-side up, as it were, and I thank him very much for trying to make sure I was sensible. See today's post for details.

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