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OK, this is the promised thread for talking about louiselux and emungere's serial fic on their community site curious_spells.

This is an NC-17 story that they summed up as "a demented, porn filled cracktastic [S]aiyuki au where Gojyo is Hakkai's boytoy." However, as of yesterday's installment (Chapter 8), it is turning into rather more than that ... things are getting occult and mythologic as all get out (which had been suggested by the Hakkai-proxy's name, from the first), and the Gojyo-proxy is in wa-a-ay over his head.

Please use topic headings ... . And I'm afraid I've f-locked it. [ETA: I've taken the f-lock off. If someone gets scandalized ... OK, they get scandalized.] Oh, and I'm going to post topics to my own post, if you see what I mean ... .

(Wow, the song now playing is freakily apropos ... .)


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Nov. 15th, 2007 11:14 pm (UTC)
Chapter 9

Eeek, I was scared for Angel! BTW, kebse means "concubine."

I'm leaning now toward the idea than Robin and Rose are both "hounds" of the Huntress character from the dream, and that this is going to be an Urban Fantasy with fae ... is the Huntress Titania?

Nov. 16th, 2007 02:50 am (UTC)
Re: Chapter 9
I think you were closer to the right track with Diana/Artemis being your first free association. Eos was the Greek goddess of dawn, who in some myths was vaguely conflated with Artemis. Eos had a rather insatiable appetite for dallying with handsome young mortal men -- in some versions this is said to be the result of a curse laid upon her by Aphrodite, jealous after catching her in an affair with Ares -- although given the usual sexual mores of the Olympians that sounds rather like an excuse after the fact! And yes, many of those handsome young lovers were forcibly abducted...the bit in the dream where the only sound Angel can hear is a single cricket is particularly telling, as one of her lovers was granted immortality, but not freedom from aging, so Eos eventually transformed him into a cricket or grasshopper when she could no longer bear to witness his senile decay...

I'm still trying to puzzle out the blond captive at her feet, though. That apple tree epithet clearly has to be a hint but I'm not quite sure where, I've not yet dug up anything on various of her lovers that fits. Part of me is wondering if maybe the blondness is a sign that it's Apollo, who was often conflated with Eos' brother Helios, so we'd have sort of a displaced echo of the Gonou/Kanan incest since Robin and Rose look like siblings but are apparently not related by blood? And there may be an apple tree connection that way, via Apollo Maleates...but I'm not entirely sure if that's not barking up the wrong tree, of course.

If nothing else, that dream is really giving me the feeling this is going to be taking a turn for the supernatural at some point -- like Robin's name wasn't a hint from the beginning that this was not going to be the most mundane of AUs!
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Nov. 20th, 2007 02:44 am (UTC)
Chap. 11 .... (Moral) Bankruptcy on the Med

I wonder if I'm right ... I'm thinking that that horrible phone call that freaked Robin out so bad included his making a deal for Angel: that he would find some more pretty boys for Rose to bring to the Lady if she would keep her paws off Angel.

And if that's so, he's going to be feeling awful and really really want Angel when he wakes up and then he's going to be pissed as hell that Angel wandered off when he needed him.

Nov. 20th, 2007 04:52 pm (UTC)
Re: Chap. 11 .... (Moral) Bankruptcy on the Med
Do you think he was actually talking to Rose, though? Back when they were sniping at each other in person, they seemed to treat each other like they were more or less equal in power. But on that phone call, he was downright deferential, which I have a little trouble imagining directed at Rose even if he's bargaining with her for something important -- that felt more like he was talking to someone higher up the food chain than himself. (Scary thought!)

And I'm wondering if, when he notices Angel is gone, his first reaction is to think that he's run off, or been taken?

And Angel, oh, that poor confused boy. That death wish manifesting as the draw to water is rather shivery stuff, for the AU version of a half-kappa who may or may not even be able to swim. And again with the mixed messages -- on the one hand he's finally getting enough volition to realize that he's in a pretty scary, unsafe situation and should get out...but just walking out in a strange country where he knows nobody and doesn't speak the language, that's even crazier than his running away to NYC. Although I have to wonder if maybe that's part and parcel of all his little petty defiances earlier -- he's tested Robin on the little things like his room, now maybe on some level he's running away to see if Robin cares enough to find him again, and might be willing to forgive even that?

Also is it just me, or is Robin's power, be it magical or mental or somewhere in between, tied in to his voice?
Nov. 21st, 2007 08:11 am (UTC)
Chapter 12
And he's finally run away...but even with the witch Jenny as a possible new friend, running off alone in a strange country, not knowing the language, and abandoning a small fortune in easily-liquidated assets, oooh, this feels like it's going to be out of the frying pan and into the fire soon enough...

Dropping all the jewelry in the water is a bit nerve-wracking -- we still don't know what the inscription was, what language even -- were they simply the symbolic collar and shackles of ownership that Angel thought, or was there something actively protective in that inscription? (Or was simply marking Robin's ownership in itself a protective gesture?)

And now it's clear that to go with the Puck figure, we've definitely got the king and queen of the fairies, as antagonistic as usual. Interesting chain of associations by going with some less-common names, of course -- and the Titania-figure being identified with Eos by more than just a coincidence of naming is continuing to seem very, very deliberate here, with her skin "flushed pink like the dawn", only here we see the rosy-fingered Dawn is sinister in that her hands are reddened with blood. (Although really, it works in both directions -- Titania the fairy queen's name comes from Ovid, where it was merely an appellation for daughters of the Titans...such as Eos.) Interesting that Angel is able to find her so easily in his dreams when clearly she thinks he shouldn't be able to -- that, and his seeming resistance to Robin's sleep spell on that last night before the trip to Ibiza, all are hinting that there's going to be more to this boy than just a hot bod and pretty face...

Nov. 22nd, 2007 05:45 am (UTC)
Re: Chapter 12 & 13 - Angel's Flight

You know, I'm far from certain he got rid of the neck chain with the nametag. He takes off and throws the earrings, and then:

He took off the [chains] on his ankles and held them against the edge, watched them slither over and drop into the blue water. Left wrist, gone as well. He held the one from his right wrist suspended and felt almost hypnotized by it. It caught the sun and sent little skittering reflections down his shirt and over his leg.

No mention of the one around his neck aside from that it's the first one he notices.

I think he's still got it. It's very important: I think that's the bit that says, basically, that he has a piece of Robin's heart. Remember how pissed Rose got when she saw it?

It's really interesting that he could visit Eos/Titania/Laurel (the last her name from DWJ's Fire and Hemlock) in broad daylight! Yes, more than just decorative ... .

The cell phone thing was heartbreaking. Poor Robin ... but I also think that without Angel there to remind him of how much (and why) he cares, the anger will grow.

Leaving via crossing over salt water should be important, but I don't know if they are running the mythologies the same way. Robin should be unable to track him now, by what I remember. But if he has a hair, or something like that, he may be able to scry for him. I bet those "hounds" have a variety of ways to track victims.

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Nov. 23rd, 2007 06:38 pm (UTC)
Chapter 14: Angel Alone

I'm missing Robin - without him, there's no sexual tension. But Angel needs to grow a bit, I guess, before he encounters Robin again.

You know, I think you had said something earlier, about Robin's using magical influence or whatever to influence Angel so that he wasn't getting freaked out by the magical happenings. And I thought that was plausible (and did you notice the way he's remembering his time with Robin, a chapter or two ago, when he's thinking that Robin's voice is easy to remember but the events aren't?)

But now, he's taking the possibility of magical events in stride even without Robin's influence.

And I find it really interesting that Eos is stealing his hair right after I commented (on the community) about Robin's being able to find one of Angel's hairs in the cabin ... .


Nov. 24th, 2007 02:05 am (UTC)
Re: Chapter 14: Angel Alone
And given all the echoes of canon, really, it also makes sense here that he has to leave for a while in order to break through Robin's shell...
Nov. 26th, 2007 06:50 pm (UTC)
Chapter 15
Eeeeeee, Robin's back! And looking more worried than ever. *wibbles*

This one was interesting as I'd been wondering for quite some time just how human/inhuman Robin really was; given the canon parallels I was pondering if he might be a human child stolen by the fairies, or one of Eos's boys partially transformed in one of the usual questionable fairy bargains. Half-human fits, although I wasn't expecting Eos to be his mother! That leads to all sorts of interesting avenues, though -- Rose as his half-sister, to continue with the Kanan echoes? And does he share his mother's need to feed upon the emotions and desires of humans? (And if so, does the intensity of Angel's desire for him make him essentially fairy-catnip?)

And it will be interesting to see what happens to Rose -- I fear she's in for a double-whammy as she's torn of Angel's tag and harmed him bodily in doing so. Loved the little echo of Gonou/Hakkai in canon in that the first sign of the curse taking hold is blood in one eye.

And the cliff scene, oh, the cliff scene! I love how those dreams are all playing out as foreshadowing, and the echoes of canon there with Gojyo and cliffs. And really, what other character here would ever have enough trust to make that sort of leap? I wonder if Jenny's comments about the wisdom of giving gifts to the sea are going to come into play soon...
Nov. 27th, 2007 03:23 am (UTC)
Re: Chapter 15 - and 16 !

I love that Robin's the half-breed! Did you see my crack on their Chap. 16 page - wondering whether Angel will be the one with the powerful super-human alternate form? That would be so cool!

Yes, poor Rose is in deep deep trouble - and it's Alberich's curse!

I love Robin trying to make sweet nice love to Angel - and Angel is so into him that it works just fine - and vice versa!

I guess we don't get to find out about the sea gifts yet, though.

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Nov. 29th, 2007 01:15 am (UTC)
Chapter 18 - "Just Like Starting Over"

Now Robin is being (mostly) open and honest, and he's realized he's in love with Angel, so now they really are making love: he's trying to give Angel pleasure, instead of just taking it and letting Angel have whatever crumbs may fall in the process.

And Angel - oh God, the poor kid, to feel uneasy because someone is being kind to him. What the hell is his history?

Nov. 29th, 2007 03:37 am (UTC)
Re: Chapter 18 - "Just Like Starting Over"
Oh, I know, I know! Robin's actually said it and he's trying so hard to show it, and really doing a pretty bang-up job considering how unfamiliar this all is to him, but poor messed-up Angel just can't BELIEVE it. He thinks it has to be joking, or pity, or guilt, because he just can't see himself being valued like that for his own sake. He's such a mess -- there's got to be something there deeper than just your garden-variety strict conservative/religious family disapproval of a rebellious, slutty teen...
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Nov. 30th, 2007 04:31 am (UTC)
Chapter 19
And now we're getting to see Alberich in the flesh...oooh, what a devilish tease that was to break a chapter on! I wonder what alerted him -- Rose didn't seem like she was inclined to go to him for help, so either rumors or griping from his estranged wife...or some sort of unearthly security system on the fairy mound?

Nice little non-answer answer on what the curse might have done if Angel had taken off the necklace -- that does seem to be one difference here between Robin and other versions of himself, this one for all his brains is clearly not used to thinking consequences through far in advance. It's almost hearkening back to that half-hidden impulsive side of Tenpou, in a way, it seems that Angel at least tends to inspire him to act without thinking quite so much about what he's getting into. But he's more than bright enough to have figured out that while Angel still has a bit of trouble accepting too much sweetness and tenderness, a bit of DS play that's a bit more careful and consensual than their old one-sided games really turns his crank. Mmmmmm. Now I wonder which of them will be the first to figure out what Angel is really saying with all of his "shut up, I'll stay?"

And for all the very, very hot scenes this time around, it's some of the little quiet bits that are sticking with me: Angel insisting they have to help Rose (shades of Gojyo and Kami-sama all over again), and the little quiet morning-after scene where he's drowsing on Robin's lap, while Robin reads and pets his hair. That was just so sweetly cozy and so very, very them, in any lifetime -- the book might be a military history or treatise on tactics instead, or a medical textbook or a philosophical work instead of a grimoire, but that basic scene just fits...
Dec. 4th, 2007 03:15 am (UTC)
Re: Chapter 19

Yeah, I was actually a little worried for Angel for a moment when Robin was saying "You don't like nice," but Robin proved his increasing mensch-hood on that point. And yes, the reading scene was adorable. I think Robin knew he had a headache. I wonder if he just figured that out by watching him snuggle back under the covers, away from the light (and in view of how Angel had been putting away the champagne) or if he's developing some kind of magical empathy (which is one of my favorite romantic fantasy tropes).

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Dec. 4th, 2007 03:19 am (UTC)
Chapters 20 + 21: In the Hall of the Mountain King

So, I like Alberich, which I didn't really expect! And he thinks Robin and Angel are married, or at least engaged!

I was really impressed at Angel's offering to endanger himself to save Rose. But even though I liked Robin's refusal on the one hand, I think there's still a little too much possessiveness there: he has yet to appreciate how Angel might feel strongly about things and should be allowed to make his own decisions. But then, Robin's upbringing was probably pretty weak onconcepts like that!

Dec. 4th, 2007 05:32 am (UTC)
Re: Chapters 20 + 21: In the Hall of the Mountain King
I'm loving Alberich -- oh, he's SO Tenpou-ish in this last chapter -- but I do not trust him at ALL. I don't think he's helping them out of any particular benevolence to the boys at all, it serves his own purposes: defanging Rose, getting Robin out of his hair, and probably just stirring up trouble for his own amusement.

And Robin definitely seems like he wouldn't have really been taught to see people as much beyond inferior things, so really, seeing him try as much as he has been is rather impressive. And in these circumstances the possessive/protective side is at least a little justified since Angel has only the faintest idea of what he might be getting himself into, and has that Gojyo-recklessness that would lead him to throw himself into risky situations anyway. Robin needs to sit down and explain a lot more of this to him so Angel can be making informed decisions, but in the short term they don't always have time to do that and he's probably not used to having to explain himself either...
Dec. 6th, 2007 03:21 am (UTC)
Chapters 22 + 23 - Deep Magics

OMG ... things are getting very, very deep into Faerie now. Did Angel give away his future with Robin in exchange for the Queen's blood? Or just his dream of it, so that it can still become a reality? (And you need to read Fire and Hemlock, smilla ... .)

And Alberich ... what a shocker. And why could Rose now destroy him, if Robin couldn't (as he says)?

Jenny is something else - I wonder how much of this she has done before! Also, part of me keeps wanting to go "Jenny = Genjyo = Sanzo," but she's not nearly bitchy enough, and where the hell is Goku, in that case?

Dec. 6th, 2007 11:31 am (UTC)
Re: Chapters 22 + 23 - Deep Magics
Well, she's clearly a little deranged and has nothing to lose at this point, so she may be attacking in a sort of berserker mode that wasn't expected. And if Alberich was utterly distracted in his books when she showed up, surprise may have been on her side as well...

Plus it's a much more threatening statement to kill someone as powerful as Alberich, rather than another fragile human like the doorman; and she seems to be out to destroy the faerie realm, so there's actual focused hate there while killing humans is just a means to try to force the boys to help her.

Jenny seems way too helpful to be Sanzo; I'm guessing this is either going to be one of those AUs where he and the monkey don't show up at all or we just haven't met them yet.
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Dec. 11th, 2007 11:15 pm (UTC)
The End! *sob!*

And ... that's it!

Poor Angel is still all ripped up from his experiences. There was something so talismanic about the way he ran for his Pez dispenser and went to the 7-11 and then to feed the ducks ... "Normal! Mundane! I want boring!" But he's never going to be the same, poor kid. A little part of him is always going to be back in the forests of Faerie.

I liked Robin's complete physical surrender to his lover at last - very symbolic, as well as hot.

I want them to find a nice house in Vermont, near a waterfall. The neighbors won't bother them, there'll be forests, and Angel can run into town to buy Pez when he needs it!

Dec. 12th, 2007 06:42 am (UTC)
Re: The End! *sob!*
*sniffles and clings*

I really need to reread those last few chapters a few more times to process everything. But oh, what a grand ride this was!

Angel's definitely still a little shaken up by all the insanity that's gone in such a short period -- but at the same time I think having so much power, even briefly, is a good thing for him in the long run. It's helped shake him out of that rut of feeling so worthless and powerless and passive, it's making it a little easier for him to empathize with what Robin's existence is like, it's helped get them on a more even footing emotionally or in terms of powers...and while the L-word has still never really been used, except indirectly when Robin was talking about the movies, I think between the bit after he's had sex with Eos and the bit where he's in the in-between zone and realizing he can destroy all of Faerie, but Robin would go with it, that he was FINALLY admitting to himself that it is really love.

And oh, yes, the way their relationship's come full-circle in that last scene was delicious. Although as hot as the role-reversal in the sex scene was, the bit that really keeps echoing in my mind is before that, when they're still too physically and emotionally drained to do anything but sleep and cuddle -- where Angel's the one waking up earlier and now Robin is the one clinging to him in sleep. It was such a lovely parallel of the earlier bit where headachey, hungover Angel is curled up on Robin's lap, only this time Robin was the one sleeping restlessly and Angel is the one soothing him. (That little frown-line vanishing as he strokes Robin's forehead was such a lovely image, and again leaves me wondering whether it's just a response to the simple soothing warmth of touch, or if this is another subtle little sign that Angel's got some powers as a side-effect of Eos' blood. Hopefully now that they both seem to be a little more than human, there won't be any of those heartbreaking lifespan mismatches like in Devikun's fic!)

I must admit I was giggling madly at the idea of AU-Doku being married to AU-Lirin, and the Eos/Angel parallels to Kanzeon Bosatsu's quirky method of blood transfusions. And the bit where Robin's signing over everything...Alberich called it. Those two are so married. *sighs*
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