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One Marine vs. 30 NYPD Cops

From Occupy Times Square:

At about 4:00 someone asks him what he'd seen that had bothered him. "I was here Oct. 5. I saw them beating people, un- ... people that had nothing to do with anything, just grabbed them out the crowd, there's no honor in that. My mom, my father, everybody has served in Iraq, Afghanistan. Well, I did 14 months in Afg-... um, Iraq, my father was in Afghanistan, my mother did a year in Iraq. We fought for this country. I don't come home... I'm in New York City, I'm from New York City, and these cops are hurting people that, that I've, I fought to protect. There's no reason for this. There's no rea-... no honor in hurting unarmed civilians, and I won't let it happen. Have a good night.")

From nancylebov; transcript from thnidu.



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Oct. 20th, 2011 12:27 am (UTC)

His feelings of responsibility for the protesters are very stirring.

Oct. 19th, 2011 01:15 am (UTC)
Such an awesome guy.
Oct. 20th, 2011 12:28 am (UTC)

Really! After all those pictures of young women being maced at close range etc., this was very welcome.

Oct. 20th, 2011 12:49 am (UTC)
Oct. 19th, 2011 09:47 pm (UTC)
From Salon, Friday, Oct 7, 2011:

The NYPD, now sponsored by Wall Street: Financial firms have given millions of dollars to the department, raising the ire of Occupy Wall St. protesters

(Justin Elliot)

"JPMorgan gave a massive gift of $4.6 million to the New York City Police Foundation in the form of money, patrol car laptops, “security monitoring software,” and other tech resources. But the donation was given starting late last year and was completed by spring 2011, so it was obviously not made in response to the Occupy Wall Street protests. At the time, Commissioner Ray Kelly sent JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon a note expressing his “profound gratitude” for the donation, and a company-written news item about the gift described it as “unprecedented” in size ... ."

" ... As it turns out, JPMorgan is not the only financial institution that has been generous to the police foundation. In the 2009-10 year, Goldman Sachs, Barclays Capital, investment bank Jeffries and Co., investor Carl Icahn, and investment firm The Renco Group each gave over $100,000 to the foundation, putting them in the top-tier of donors, according to the foundation’s website. Bank of America also gave over $75,000 that year. (Another $100,000+ donor was Rupert Murdoch’s News Corp.)

"Keep in mind that’s just a single year’s worth of donations. As a private non-profit, the New York City Police Foundation does not have to release detailed donor information, so we don’t know of the the full scope of Wall Street money flowing into the NYPD."
Oct. 20th, 2011 12:30 am (UTC)

There have been some very, very nasty stories about the NYPD coming out in the past few days.

Oct. 20th, 2011 12:57 am (UTC)
It looks like they're operating like a private army.
Oct. 20th, 2011 01:30 am (UTC)

DJ & commentator Jay Smooth has an interesting take on the whole thing.

Oct. 20th, 2011 05:52 pm (UTC)
As a fairly unreconstructed and unapologetic old hippie/activist myself, I have been watching the whole movement unfold with great interest, and cautious optimism. I pretty much expected the media and the police both to react the way they have been - sadly, some things haven't changed all that much in the over 40 years since the free speech and anti-war movements gained momentum back in the Sixties.

Yeah, the folks with the current movement have admittedly been a little nebulous and drifty at times - sometimes it isn't pretty watching the sausage getting made. I watched a video of the first meeting of the Occupy Richmond (VA) group, and it was almost painful: screamingly funny at some moments, and quite endearing at others. But I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiments of Jay Smooth in his video you gave the link to. I think the 99%'ers are going in the right direction, and the people that don't "get it" probably are the ones that would never get it anyway, or who have something at stake if the 99% movement ever really gains any substantial political clout.

I saw the young ex-Marine interviewed on TV this morning, and watched his video on YouTube, and was quite impressed and moved as well. But when, oh when, will I ever learn not to read the damned comments on YouTube? There was a truly disturbing assortment of wank on there, trying to discredit and impugn his credibility, and slamming the entire movement. It was quite sad. There's some very scary people out there - I'm just glad I couldn't see the ones that got pulled for content.

I've been waiting since about 1979 for the people of this country to wake up and start caring about something beyond their phones, cars, tv's, and how skinny they are... Personally, I find it encouraging and refreshing that we finally have hopes of a generation of kids who seem to realize that what they do and how they live truly matters, and that it's ok to take a stand and believe in something.

Thanks for posting this, Cho -- I've been wanting to say something about it on LJ for a while now, and been too bogged down myself to do an actual post. Ya beat me to it, and gave me a chance to vent my happy over it. ♥
Oct. 23rd, 2011 01:52 am (UTC)

My own feelings about the whole thing are complex, but the inequity of incomes is clearly a grave injustice. Unfortunately, one of this nation's dearest tropes is that if a person works hard, s/he will be successful (= wealthy), and that's been equated with moral goodness.

I think what was so striking to me about this young man was that the opponents of the movement are, in many cases, the sort of people who assume that the military must be kindred spirits. I was deeply touched by his sense of responsibility for his fellow citizens and his ethics regarding the actions of the police.

Oct. 23rd, 2011 07:37 pm (UTC)
Yeah, my daughter-in-law was telling me that Herman Cain insists that there are no social or economic inequities in our society, that there are jobs for everyone, and anyone can find a job if they just go out and look for one. Hooh-kay, then. Uh-huh. Let's go to one of these areas with 15-20% unemployment right now and let him say that to someone out looking for a job - I'll ask them how that's working out for them these days, that "anyone can..." thing...

I agree with you, what impressed me the most was how the young ex-marine seemed so driven to speak out - like it was a moral imperative that he say something, under the circumstances, that he simply could not keep silent. I really respect anyone with that kind of sensibility - so many are content to just pass everything in life by with the "hey, it's not my problem," attitude.
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