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A Fashion Question!

Yeah, I bet that's something you never expected to see here ... .

Anyway, the Young Lady's supervisor-to-be for the internship was of the opinion that she would need a suit. I was just browsing around, seeing who had suits that would fit, and Macy's had three pieces (shortish jacket, pleated skirt, trousers) in her size for a very reasonable price. The materials are not super-great - rayon/poly blend - but fairly typical for summer suits unless you're going really high end and buying Italian summerweight wool or silk or something similar. It's a cool pale gray in color.

What color shoes should she wear in it?

She has feet like mine and the Mr.'s - very wide - so we're not going to be able to buy a full wardrobe of different colors of dress shoes for her without spending a mint. But I think her only dress shoes at the moment are black, and I don't think that works with such a light color, especially in the summer.


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May. 26th, 2011 02:06 am (UTC)
I'm not so convinced that black doesn't work with light gray, but I'd have to see it. The black might have to be matte.

Other possibilities: gray (medium or dark), blue of some variety (depending on the shade and tone of the gray; medium blue or navy might work, depending); a grayish taupe; possibly bone or cream. All of these, except possibly the medium blue, are neutral colors.

Also, for summer, she can wear open-toed shoes or sandals if they don't clash with the style of the outfit, and those could even be white. I'd stay away from white pumps or ballet slipper style shoes, though.

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May. 28th, 2011 02:02 am (UTC)
NB: Some places really frown on open-toed shoes or sandals in an office environment. I haven't the foggiest notion why but there it is.

EDIT: I like the bone idea, because it's a good spring/summer color.

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May. 28th, 2011 03:04 am (UTC)

It may actually turn out to be a darker gray than it looked on the Macy's site, but she tried it on earlier for the Mr., before I got home, so I'm not going to attempt to get her to model it again. Apparently it was OK - he's very conservative about business attire, and his comment was that it look "sane." (He's been having to wear basically the civvie equivalent of military uniform for 20 years, because that's his customer base.)

I'm going to go through her existing collection of shoes tomorrow, and then we'll likely go shoe shopping. I'm expecting to find a couple of pairs of black really dressy shoes (probably strappy sandals) and lots of casual shoes, with nothing businesslike. She says she has a bone pair, but I don't remember them - probably bought for a wedding or bar mitzvah.

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May. 26th, 2011 02:29 am (UTC)
What color blouses/accessories is she going to wear with it?

If I were wearing this for myself, I would go for black shoes, but I'd be wearing it all with black jewelry/scarves/tops/hose, carrying a black bag, etc., so it would all be tied together in unified shades of black and gray; black shoes with everything else in light tones would look fairly off to me.

I'd second lawless523's suggestions that a medium-to-dark gray with the same cool undertones, a cool navy, or a very grayish cool mushroom/taupe could work as well -- maaaaaybe a bone/off-white if you can find one that's cool-toned enough, but if the suit is a very cool gray I think that's going to be a lot trickier to match. A subtle silver/pewter metallic leather might also work well as a grayish neutral that will work with more colors than plain gray shoes -- something with just a very slight metallic gleam, of course, not a super-glittery sort of finish. Whichever direction you go, if you're picking shoes that are noticeably lighter or darker in color intensity than the suit, I would suggest wearing them with at least one other piece -- blouse, scarf, etc. -- that picks up the color.

What sort of colors are the rest of her wardrobe heavy on? I think I've seen her more in dark stuff, but I haven't seen her often enough to be sure that's her usual taste. If she leans more towards dark colors already, I'd go for one of the darker neutrals since she'll have more pieces that will work with them already, and thus will get more potential wear out of them versus a lighter pair that only works with this one suit. And of course, lighter shoes are more likely to show dirt/damage/wear sooner and more glaringly than darker ones, which is always something to consider, especially if she's going to be walking/Metroing to work.
May. 28th, 2011 03:11 am (UTC)

LOL ... her wardrobe is mainly T shirts and jeans in black, red, and some neutrals!

I have been buying her some dressier slacks over the past few days, in neutrals - I think it ended being dark olive, a medium brown (darker than the usual khaki), and black - most of them on sale. I would have preferred some navy - I may get her some of those anyway at some point. The suit seems to be a darker gray than it looked online, so at this point my concern is not so much shoe color but style - what she thinks of as her good black shoes may all be strappy sandals. I need to check them out.

She may just have to carry her good shoes and change when she gets there. I keep my office shoes at the office, but she may not have that option.

May. 28th, 2011 03:35 am (UTC)
Well, I know the both of you are largely t-shirt-and-jeans sort of gals, but she seems to have a bit of a femme streak and I've occasionally seen her in slightly dressier stuff at cons, so I know she has a few non-tee tops, although I don't know if any of 'em are office-compatible or not! ;)

Olive and chocolate brown honestly seem a bit more youthful/contemporary-looking sort of neutrals to me than navy blue -- and the olive/brown stuff, depending on the undertones, might be somewhat cross-compatible with the same shoes and tops, etc., and the black trousers can co with the same things as the dark gray pieces, but you might have to get her yet another set of shoes to match stuff in navy. If she already likes black and has accessories that go with it, I'd lean more in the direction of stuff that was compatible there rather than starting from scratch with a new, possibly incompatible color...
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May. 26th, 2011 02:38 am (UTC)
If it's a super cool gray, I'd stay away from anything with brownish tones. Gray or a muted blue would probably be best for conservative shoes; black or even red would work in a summery sandal if she's feeling more adventurous. If it's neutral-to-warm gray, then pretty much anything goes... Avoid plain, flesh-toned shoes... they look so old...
May. 28th, 2011 03:17 am (UTC)

She actually has a pair of red slides, which I got for her a couple of years ago because they were on some sort of unbelievable sale, but that's way too casual ... .

The thing is, they can wear business casual most of the time, but I don't know if she has any shoes suitable for that - she owns strappy sandals for dressing up, sneakers, and sandals. So I think she needs some kind of slip-ons or something, one step up from loafers, to wear with slacks for everyday. If her supervisor is worried enough about making a conservative appearance that's she's suggesting that a summer intern needs a suit, I think we're talking pumps more than sandals for the suit.

May. 26th, 2011 03:10 am (UTC)
I think a matte black shoe could work with a grey suit. Or perhaps a white or dark blue shoe, as long as she also wore matching accessories.

I googled "what to wear with a grey suit" and it looks like a lot of models are wearing brown and black shoes:



May. 28th, 2011 03:18 am (UTC)

The suit seems to be a little darker than it looked online, so maybe we can do the black shoes. I'm going to take a closer look tomorrow, and go through her shoes.

May. 26th, 2011 03:44 am (UTC)
Grey and yellow is trendy at the moment, and I think it's a great combination, but it will probably look dated in a couple of years. Though yellow shoes go with more than you'd think they might, so if they outlive the suit that's not a problem.

Plum, or another rich reddish purple, might be the most versatile color-- it looks fantastic with grey and with almost any color you'd wear with it: black, silver, cool blues, mauve, cream, most pinks, pale yellows.

I don't know what style she's looking for, but maybe something like one of these?



May. 26th, 2011 04:56 am (UTC)
Yeah, I love mixing deep plums and purples with black and gray, although if it's a very cold sort of gray I'd lean more towards a cool-toned blue-violety sort of plum rather than a very reddish one, unless the red tones are more of a coolish burgundy-red. Burgundy and gray could go together nicely too, although I'd be more inclined to only go that route if the gray is medium to dark rather than silvery-pale.

It's kind of an 80s-ish palette, but if she's not allergic to the very idea of pink-ish pastels then pinks and mauves and lavenders with the right undertones go really nicely with grays, too; I wouldn't be inclined to go that route myself since I'm not fond of light shoes and pastels in general, but if she likes those colors and has enough other stuff that would look good with them, that's another possibility.
May. 28th, 2011 03:35 am (UTC)

Quoth the Young Lady, "I don't wear yellow."

I think the plum looks wonderful, but the max width on all those shoes was a D - we're talking E to EE at least, here.

I think the flowers are cute, but she doesn't tend to do cute anymore than she does yellow. We'll see - other brands that do fit have that basic little pump with the floral decoration, and some of them do have purples or plums. The suit also turns out to be darker than it looked online.

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May. 26th, 2011 04:36 pm (UTC)
I would say black shoes, because it's a gray suit, no matter how pale. If it were a blue suit, then it would be brown or corduvan shoes.

Of course, I live in a pretty conservative part of the country.
May. 28th, 2011 03:36 am (UTC)

Well, the suit turns out to be darker gray than we thought, so black might be OK.

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