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Well, What Kind of Thinker *Am* I?

A Saturday is a perfect time for a meme! This one is ganked from kispexi2:

Your Thinking is Abstract and Random
You are flexible, adaptable, and creative. There's many ways that you can learn - and you're up for any of them.

You relate well to other people, and you do well working in groups. You can help people communicate together and work with each other's strengths.

You don't work well with people who are competitive or adversarial. You prefer to work toward a common goal... not toward conflicting goals.

What Kind of Thinker Are You?

Whoa, pretty good result there for only 4 questions!

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theloomofmoira
Jul. 12th, 2008 06:32 pm (UTC)
surprise surprise
I am also abstract and random.
chomiji
Jul. 14th, 2008 02:17 am (UTC)
Re: surprise surprise

:-)

I love tracking how these things match (or don't) the more well-regarded personality tests, like the MBTI! Someday I ought to make a big table of all my LJ friends who usually do these things along with me, and see how they track.

smillaraaq
Jul. 12th, 2008 07:31 pm (UTC)


Your Thinking is Abstract and Sequential



You like to do research and collect lots of information.

The more facts you have, the easier it is for you to learn.



You need to figure things out for yourself and consider all possibilities.

You tend to become an expert in the subjects that you study.



It's difficult for you to work with people who know less than you do.

You aren't a very patient teacher, and you don't like convincing people that you're right.



I'm not sure how good a call that one is. I do love researching things and picking up all sorts of arcane, random info just for the sheer pleasure of it all (just ask FR9 how after she asked one or two quick questions about story research, I've been absolutely saturation-bombing her with links on Japanese clothing history and Edo-era prostitution in the Yoshiwara...)

But despite being as introverted and antisocial as I am, I'm actually pretty damn good as a teacher, at least if I'm teaching something I love to do (like the years spent teaching sewing), and if I didn't have any patience with that sort of thing I'd be a total failure as a dog trainer, too. And I generally don't like working with other people IN GENERAL, it's not a matter of what they do or don't know.
freeradical9
Jul. 13th, 2008 12:48 am (UTC)
LOL! Smillaraaq, this is exactly the same match I got, too (and it made me think of all the Edo-era research, as well). ^_^ I also feel that the first two sections are a pretty good match, but the last one, not so much. Perhaps it's a flaw in the questionnaire. It's a pretty interesting meme topic, though.

smillaraaq
Jul. 13th, 2008 03:34 am (UTC)
Bwah! Great minds, and all that. XD

A friend got Concrete and Random, which overall sounds like a much better match for me -- I really don't think very sequentially, my brain just tends to flit about in wild flurries of free-association and even in reading I often find I'm happiest going out of order in a series and then working my way backwards and forwards. And I don't feel like I'm all that abstract, either -- much as I love thought experiments and imaginative hobbies, all my flights of fancy are fundamentally grounded in real emotions, real history, etc.; things that seem too airy and abstract are just rather off-putting to me.

But for some of those questions, none of the answers available really fit me, and I just sort of had to flounder and pick the one that wasn't even so much the closest match, more like the one that was the least totally off the mark. So no wonder the results don't quite seem to fit, either...
freeradical9
Jul. 15th, 2008 01:00 am (UTC)
Ooh, Concrete and Random is nice! Your comment about starting in the middle of a series made me laugh--I only do that by accident. ^_^

Most of the memes probably aren't generated by professional psychologists, so probably there's stuff that gets lost in translation when the questions are being written. I agree that more often than not, these quizzes have questions where there really doesn't seem to be any one fitting answer. :
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chomiji
Jul. 14th, 2008 02:58 am (UTC)

Have you ever done the Meyers-Briggs Type Inventory, free9? I always mentally check these things versus that, because it's fairly well accepted in schools and workplaces (and also because I agree with its analysis of me ... LOL!). With several of my friends, I know what types they test as on that also, and it can be interesting to see whether these more fly-by-night tests point in similar directions. (I'm a little surprised, for example, that smilla didn't end up with a result more like mine - or mine like hers! - and not suprised that blue_hobbit (below) ended up with the same thing I did.)

(I'm an INFP on the MBTI, BTW.)

freeradical9
Jul. 14th, 2008 04:17 am (UTC)
Eh heh. Hadn't taken one since junior high.

Out of curiosity, I ran the meme link from your blog archive and the meme link from a different one avierra had posted previously, and got two slightly different results: ISFJ and ISTJ. Both alternatives seem pretty accurate by my own evaluation; I took a test a while back for right brain vs. left brain dominance and scored pretty much in the center, which may explain the T vs. F result.

The act of finding two different questionnaires to compare the results probably verifies the "sensing" aspect of my personality. ^_^

So, to relate it to your comment above, certainly my MBTI result matches most of the "abstract sequential" results of the thinker meme--but the "It's difficult for you to work with people who know less than you do." and "You aren't a very patient teacher" don't jive very well, especially with the ISFJ nurturer in me.

...And INFP definitely fits with what I know of your personality from the time we've been friends. Works nicely with your current default icon, too. ^_^
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chomiji
Jul. 14th, 2008 02:19 am (UTC)

I have a feeling this test tended to paint in rather broad strokes. Maybe we ought to compare exactly what we answered on each question ... y.

smillaraaq
Jul. 14th, 2008 04:52 am (UTC)
Heh, and don't forget we did hit fairly different points on the individual MB scales, even if we still both overall got the same type... :)

Let's see, I think my answers were (1) 4, (2) 3, (3) 4, (4) 1, and (5) 3. Questions 1, 3, and 4 were all straightforward good fits for the answer, but (2) was really a "none of these even come close to fitting", and (5) was also a very poor fit that left me wishing it could be multiple choice.

I'm guessing (3) is where the "impatient teacher" bit comes from, which seems a poor extrapolation to me. I could *almost* have chosen the "competitive and stressful" answer as well, I don't like high-stress work, but I'm so high on the introversion axis that working too closely with others, even when they're folks I like and get along with, *IS* intrinsically somewhat stressful; if it's folks I don't particularly like, folks who don't know what they're doing, folks who are bad at their jobs but who I don't have any way of avoiding or authority to redirect properly, that's just all the more maddening and stressful; ditto for if I'm being micromanaged by someone over me or constantly getting interrupted by people. Working with other folks under my authority, that's a little easier so long as they're smart folks that I can just hand off tasks to and leave them to it -- but again, even the minor interruptions of whatever I'm trying to do myself make this a little less than optimal for me; when I'm focused, I don't like anything that knocks my mind out of its groove. But teaching doesn't push those same buttons because I'm in more of an authority position and typically working with someone who *wants* to learn, and my task there is helping them to learn -- it's a very, very different sort of working-with-others, IMO, than trying to get my own work done and having to tear my hair out dealing with other people in order to do it!

As for (5), that was one of the "pick the least awful fit" rather than "pick the closest fit"; I'd honestly have had to pick and choose elements from each to get a more accurate response. 1 was out because I'm not really thrilled by taking risks, although the other two items were a good fit. 2 was out because cooperating = working with other people in my mind, no thanks! even if the other two terms were OK. 3 and 4 were slightly closer fits but still not perfect -- I ended up going with 3 because I'm a little more likely to enjoy debating something (in the right circumstances, if it's just sort of a non-emotional discussion of differeng views; I was more into heated debate when I was younger, now I don't have as much patience for it) than I am to enjoy organizing something (remember my Tenpou-ish book explosion decor! I can organize things when I have to, but it feels like housework to me -- a grudging occasional necessity, whereas debating on the right subjects in the right circumstances can be fun.) If those two terms had been left out, though, it'd have been a much harder choice, and I might just as easily have swung for 4 instead...thinking is fun, but I enjoy doing things even more than just thinking about them. I do honestly feel like I'm a much more concrete sort of person than an abstract one, and I'm definitely terribly random!
chomiji
Jul. 14th, 2008 02:58 pm (UTC)

OK, so it fell out like this:

Question
no.
smilla cho  
1 4 4
2 3 2
3 4 3
4 1 3
5 3 2

Hmmm ... see, I prefer working with people, and especially those I like. I start feeling cut-off and weird when I don't have some interaction during the day. And I hate, hate, hate working in an unhappy, competitive environment. And for me, "debating" is always a negative. It's not like "discussing." For it to be a debate, there would have to be disagreement. And that could mean unpleasantness. Yes, I can deal with it - but it's not something I seek. And I feel most "me" when I'm sharing and communicating.

The one thing that could have gone either way for me was (4): both answer 1 and answer (3) have an element of real-world, but (1) is more hands-on. I like that as a way to learn well.

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freeradical9
Jul. 13th, 2008 12:51 am (UTC)
Ooh. Flexible and creative, with strong communication skills. Very nice! ^_^
chomiji
Jul. 14th, 2008 03:39 am (UTC)

I'm such a sucker for tests that flatter ... .

blue_hobbit
Jul. 13th, 2008 04:41 am (UTC)
I got the same result... abstract and random, that definitely sounds like me ;)
chomiji
Jul. 14th, 2008 03:40 am (UTC)

Yes, it is the INFP way!

XD

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